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doubleday which we don't have any record he saw a game -- but the real story in hoboken is not good enough and so we perpetuate this myth and we're happy or reassure ourselves of this myth about the creation of baseball so, too, with jackie robinson. there are so many things which the sort of conventional wisdom, the superficial conventional wisdom obtains no matter what. we have to say, look, it's so much more interesting this way. henry: we as society needed that myth at that time. society produced myths that recognize sides of the aisle irreconcilable things. ken: if you go and look for it you don't find it in the mythology of jackie. you find another kind of mythology that maybe itself frozen but later on it sort of gravitates, as books get written and people's stories get handed down and red barber, the now-deceased broadcaster, told us this story that worked its way into our film. but we read it in a few other
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places. and it comes, as you know, it's hard to turn around a ship that's got some momentum and i think what the constant requirement of historians, both professional and amateur, is to try to figure out how to, as we learn new information, say, about thomas jefferson and d.n.a. and sally hemings, how do you turn that ship around and say, you know what, guys, the father of our country, the author of our catechism. we hold these truths to be self-evident is the father of sally's children. henry: turn it around is by assuring political correctness and say this is the story of the -- truth of the story. you may not like it. we are not going to be myth makers. we are not going to allied the bits of racial history. michael: you talk about some of the contrasting views within the black community.
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it's not a single narrative that can capture the complexity. henry: what every white person knows. michael: and jackie robinson supported nixon in 1960. henry: yeah. michael: and against paul robeson. how much did he suffer for that? henry: well, let's go with the first point and then the suffering. i teach a course -- when i was an undergraduate at yale it was 1969-1973. so that was the height of the black arts movement, black power. everybody remembers. he's smiling. i had -- you have to cut back to 1969. you see my class pic. i had a two-foot-high afro. cornell's afro looked like a crew cut next to my afro. [laughter] i had a -- it could come back if i wanted to. i had a closet full of -- and i
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changed like a computer code. make sure you were so -- michael: yeah. henry: people on campus because, where was i, in 1970, i was in new haven, connecticut, in calhoun college, a block away from the courthouse where bobby field was being tried. so it was full of black panthers and there was a drugstore on the way to the yale co-ops. it would where we got the books. the first person, you had to get by, was a black muslim. a guy with a white shirt trying to sell you mohamed's speech. i got it.
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i got it. then there would be a big brother with a beret on and a leather coat and panther speech. where will you be when the revolution comes? i got that one. but there was so many people who would come to the black -- i was secretary of the b.s.a. the black student alliance at yale. and there were so many of these guys that would come and try to tell us how to be black. i saw a lot of damage in the black community. i saw a guy in love with this white girl. up the street. he loved this girl to death. should have gotten marry. he wouldn't marry her because it would un-black him. he never got over.
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i decided if i ever were in a position of power, i was going to -- if i ever became a professor, as i said earlier, i didn't know i would be a professor because my mama raised two boys to be doctors. my mother is in heaven. there is a father, son and holy ghost. between them is a medical doctor. [laughter] henry: it's true. so i end up becoming a professor. i teach a very large and thank god popular course at harvard and it's got a simple name. introduction to african-american studies. i teach it with -- i did teach it with evelyn brooks higenbaum. leon's widow. and now i teach it with larry. the whole course is about how black people have been arguing with each other since the 18th century about what it means to be black. and the reason i do that, the last line of my final lecture is i say, if you take away one thing in this class, just one that professor bobo and i have said, i want it to be this. there are 42 million african-americans in this country, which means there are 42 million ways to be black. never let a bully tell you how to be black. [applause]
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michael: what do you think the black lives matter movement fits into this larger narrative that you just described? henry: well, i just wrote an article about it in "the times" couple weeks ago. and i tried to put it in historical context. i just got on my friends "at the new yorker." one did a piece. it's all about how they hate each other and who created -- i wrote to -- i can't say which editor. this is like the battle royal scene. why not talk about the intellectual roots? what do they want to achieve intellectually. it would be nice if "the new york times" did that. [laughter]
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i believe -- and the editor -- brilliant editor at "the times"" my editor said, we can't find this assertion anywhere. where is the footnote? i'm the footnote. ok. we're going to run it. this is what i say. precisely because of the classes divided within the african-american community, there is a tremendous amount of guilt. there is a tremendous amount of guilt on college campuses about these kids are very successful and they're going to be successful. and the guilt is about all the people in the hood who are left behind and unless there is something drastic -- some drastic changes, both structurally and behaviorally, then those group of people are going to be exactly where their parents were socioeconomically. what is the most likely predictor of your economic outcome? your parent's economic status. if you're born in a household that is deeply deprived, chances are unless there are government intervention, philanthropic intervention, behavioral intervention, nothing is going to change. black lives matter is because of
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this class divide. i think you have to be in the race to think about it and know. i say they were carrying out due boys' charge and that is we're not free until we're all free. not one of us is -- ken: jackie robinson says, you say -- jackie robinson of all people, you have it made and he says, i don't have it made until every person in st. augustine, florida, has it made. michael: do you guys think the rise of donald trump says anything about racial relations in this country today or does it say more about the -- ken: yes. we are in a rote row grade moment right now in which the dog whistles of race have been with us. we can't pretend that a phenomenon of the kind of racial innuendo what's happening right now is somehow new and we're
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shocked this is happening. this has been going on for a long time. ronald reagan opened his 1980 campaign in philadelphia, mississippi. he was saying wink-wink in -- henry: and that's where goodwin were murder. ken: it was important for ronald reagan to go there to talk about states' rights and he swore to that which was a wink but that's been going on since richard nixon said this would be good for to intervene -- and barry goldwater is we're going to go hunting not where the ducks were. where thomas -- in 1956 whose principal idea was to introduce the abolition of slavery. that's an important thing to remember that's been advocated. so when you have a presidential candidate who takes a day to remember that he had already once repudiated david duke and took him a day to remember that he -- was going to do it now, that is the wink-wink dog whistle that signals to our unreconstructed brethren. we like to believe in the better
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angels of our -- we like to believe we're making progress. we like to believe we would all be that slave ship owner who, you know, gives it up and writes amazing grace. we like to believe in our better selves but in point of fact, a lot of us aren't that and the old guilt, that robert penn warren talked about, don't often transform into goodness but metastasize into darkness. henry: i agree. i agree. [applause] henry: i, alone in my little coachery at harvard, when people were mocking donald trump, i turned to my friends and i said, you got to watch this guy. this guy is not going to go away, as he famously said, and he is speaking to a need and a deep set of fears within a large segment of the american community. and -- we were talking briefly at lunch, we've all been frightened. you know, you can't mock the
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people who are frightened. when you're frightened, does somebody mocks you and call you a scary cat, did that make you feel better? it made you feel worse. it's not an exact analogy but i think if i were an advisor to hillary clinton, who i support, a very good friend, i would say you have to study what the needs are, why these people are terrified, why are they so prone to anti-black feelings and anti-muslim, islamaphobia, why they want the wall up, etc., etc., and what policies can be formulated that speak to their fears but from the opposite end of the ideological spectrum that donald trump is doing? rather than exacerbate their fears, how do we assuage their fears and teach them how to reach across ethnic and racial and class lines, create new coalitions, and form bridges rather than to erect barriers?
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we cannot -- i told an audience in texas, i grew up in the hills of west virginia. i'm as west virginian as i am black. and in many ways i'm more west virginian than i am black. we all have multiple identities. if you ask me how i got to this stage, i would say growing up, independent, rugged, in the hills of eastern west virginia, on the potomac river, shaped the person that i became. get me here as being black. that's just true. and i grew up overwhelming -- with an overwhelming percentage of white kids. many of those people are supporting donald trump. and i'm still close to them and they would use the n word. i grew up with people that would say, skippy, if all niggers were like you we wouldn't have problems. [laughter] i would say, littlie, if more crackers were like you --
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[laughter] these are my people. and i don't think that calling people trailer trash, i think calling people trailer trash is just as offensive as using the n word. and i think we can't just push a whole segment of frightened people down the sewer pipes of western history. we have to figure out how to bring them up, how to give them hope, how to create problems like bill clinton did. hillary said last night that the -- the town hall that, look at the way race relations were much better when we had the lowest unemployment we had since the great depression under bill clinton's economic policy. people start to look for scapegoats when there's not enough lasagna to feed. that's when they look for scapegoats. we have to look at how to coin vince people there is not enough to feed the people and the these
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gay people and other people are not eating their share of lunch. michael: does it dissipate if trump loses and -- ken: no, i think it's already there. i have spent my professional life dealing in american history and you -- the 30 films i made, you know, maybe three don't deal with race in some way or another. doesn't mean i'm not going to look for it. it's always there. we put black history as if it's some politically correct agenda in february. it's every day. it's part of the american narrative. when thomas jefferson said all men were created equal. he didn't mean the 100 people he owned. that would ensure we would have a civil war, both symbolically and literally and everything that led up to the civil war, everything before it led up and everything since has been a consequence. you run into race all the time. i spent my life deflecting criticism from the haters, we
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would say, on the internet, but writing letters and colleagues would say, would you let go of this thing? now that obama was elected, would you now shut up? wait, wait, you watch. remember the onion headline when he was inaugurated. black man given worst job in the world. [laughter] that was a sort of preview of what was actually going to happen. so that is going to disturb the molecules in a lot of people. i think it's never going to go away until we begin to move and advance the conversation. and skip is absolutely right. if you can reach out to the people who are now so frightened -- and i believe a counternarrative has been drummed into their head for decades and decades and to be able to look up and see a black guy fly in air force one and look at the supposed hordes of people going over the no wall where there is a net loss of mexicans. more mexicans are leaving than coming over. those that do come over are about 1/3 less likely to commit a crime.
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if you can educate people by having a conversation that does it, you don't call them as trailer trash. and don't refer to them as ignorant or whatever and say, you are supporting who doesn't have your self-interest in mind and you have a lot of self-interest in a lot of the folks, as skip says, that are perhaps eating your lasagna. that is not the case. in fact, you can break bread -- you have common cause with poor blacks and those stuck below the poverty line as skip said. you have -- nobody is eating your dinner. in fact, there are other people who are so self-interested, they've been eating your dinner for a long time and they have been convincing you to vote against your self-interest for decades and decades and decades and maybe we can help through a little bit of counternarrative remind you what's really happening, this is after 72 straight months of job growth. this is after an auto industry that is now making a profit. this is after the end of
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capitalism didn't happen. this is after 20 million more people with health insurance, whether it's flawed or not, means it's human. we've actually -- it's not as bad. henry: because make no mistake, if ever working class white people and working class black people ever realize their -- that the greatest thing that could happen to them would be to break their common economic interest there would be a major social transformation. ken: evolution. [applause] henry: these are michael: has this a backlash that we have our first african-american president? henry: no, no. you lie. [laughter] michael: is that -- henry: that drove some people crazy. what happened is some people on the left started checking out books. one of my friends is at the end
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of the black literature. what? i called him. are you crazy? like somehow racism disappeared. this is the promise land. barack and michelle are here. it's good. when the man yelled -- what was the congressman's named? michael: joe wilson. henry: what would lyndon johnson done to that brother? he would have disappeared. ken: his district would have been gerrymandered out. henry: and johnson would say, i hated to do it. [laughter] [applause] and the other thing is, when the press conference, the republicans said we'll do everything we can to defeat this man -- ken: from day one. henry: unprecedented. unprecedented. michael: many people would argue this is just hardball politics, right? i'm a republican, i don't want to see this democratic president have a second term. ken: so i asked shelby why the
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civil war came and he said, americans like to think of themselves as uncompromising people but we're not. our genius is compromised and when it broke down we murdered each other. 750,000 people died in the greatest war. and we are now in a political environment in which we celebrate the no compromise in which since the passage of the affordable care act, there has been almost party-by-party vote on every single thing. lockstep. and that is the greatest threat to the united states is our unwillingness to bend and a lot of it has to do with, you know, basic, as you say, hardball politics. it's always been around. but those hardball politics when johnson passed the civil rights act and the voting rights act, he had huge republican support. he was able to make that happen. even though republicans, as a party, had essentially abandoned in a southern strategy reaching out to african-americans. but he could individually say this is what's right. one of the great floor leaders in that is everett dirkson, who is a republican.
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those things happened because people were willing to compromise and we don't do that anymore. so it is, of course, a political dynamic. but i think what has made it easier for people to do it, just as it's easy in a mob to say fire or get him, we -- it takes the calmer voices. it takes the more complicated narrative a long time to gear up to the simple one in which you say the n word or you say you lie or you say i am not going to compromise because that's against my principles. our genius is compromised. henry: there is another thing too. lyndon johnson was one of the founders of the tea party at the white house asking them to participate. johnson was knocking heads. and it's a hard thing to talk about. i've noticed many of my friends in the press are very reluctant to criticize barack obama because obama has taken so much criticism, undue criticism, right?
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but i think there is room for a critique of how the president used the hallmarks and tools and perks of office to affect compromise. i think he's worked very hard, but i think not a -- he's not johnson. you can't ask him to be that but maybe he could have done more. what do you think? ken: you and i talked about this more and i respectfully disagree because i think you gave it. on the very first day, nobody said it when ronald reagan, no democrat when ronald reagan was elected, you know, said my one job here is to make sure he's a failure. which means your one job is to make sure that the united states is a failure. let me also point out, not to keep beating to death affordable care act, but this is something that teddy roosevelt wanted, woodrow wilson wanted, harry truman wanted, lyndon johnson wanted, bill clinton wanted and he got it done. [applause]
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i would say is he stylistically not a southern person who knows how to get votes pocketed and knows how to get a drink? no, he's not. but i won't say, you know, he's without failure but i think it's very important to put this in perspective. start off from not even day one your negative three months one. the day you're elected, you're not inaugurate and you have an entire party that says, nope. michael: how much is he constrained, do you think, by race? the idea that a black president could cajole, knock heads if need be, i know it has changed since the 1960's, but is it harder for a black president to do? ken: of course it is. he has to come here having to represent all of the people or try to represent all the people who didn't vote for him and a lot of those votes were people that didn't vote for him based on the color of his skin. he's had to be incredible circumspect. i think i would have an easier time talking about it and do have an easier time talking about it. in a few instances he's been
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able to do it effectively. i thought it was very moving when trayvon martin was killed and he said, he could have been my son. remember he went on a date in new york city with his wife. now, if anybody else would have done that that would have been a moment. pbs posted on entertainment weekly a little bite in the film where the president and first lady are speaking about how they needed each other in times of trouble just reich jackie and rachel needed each other. it's a very wonderful and moving bite. i'd urge you to go to that link and look it up. it won't ruin the film. it's one of the best moments in the film. then scroll down and look at the comments about it. they are beyond the pale in terms of vitriol. this is a beautiful moment between a husband and a wife. any person, white, black, purple green, it's very funny and embarrassing and kind of loving all at the same time and you realize there's a relationship
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between jackie and rachel, you know. no rachel, no jackie and maybe no michelle and no president obama. but the vitriol just for the fact there is a black man who's president talking about marriage is so instructive. you cannot -- i mean, we all know. we've all been singed by, aware of the unfettered internet which allowed the ungovern -- to be out there saying the worst possible thing anonymously. michael: anonymously. ken: it shows you what lies beneath the mob. if you are at all surprised what happens in our political process now, if you have been dedicated to no compromise, you can see this in the way that's called trolling that takes place. this is beyond the pale. you couldn't imagine if we had looked ahead -- if we were five years ago and looked ahead to the kind of stuff going on. this sounds like stuff you read
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in the 1880's about why so-and-so was lynched, right? this is not a modern, progressive republic that is the leader of the free world. henry: at ferris state university there was a jim crow museum. i thought our documentary -- i guess it was two years ago when we filmed that. and already there was not a wink but this is a jim crow museum. these are all of the negative images. they already had a huge collection of the most demeaning -- i mean, demeaning even images of barack obama. so you're absolutely right. but, you know, ken, when i was growing up there were no excuses. we expected white people to be racist. i think that barack obama was shocked, just like you were, unlike i was, at the degree of racism.
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i think a little bit, maybe he let his guard down. i think maybe he believed the narrative that a new racial -- a day of racial harmony had come. i think they were caught offguard. i don't think that they -- i think -- i don't think they had anticipated the depth of american racism or -- and how much had not changed because a black man had been elected to president of the united states. michael: let me ask you this, skip. henry: that's barbershop talk. [laughter] michael: when you were arrested at cambridge, did you know immediately when he answered that question this was going to be a big deal? because it sounded to me like it was a very obvious point he made but did you see it immediately? henry: well, you know, my phones started ringing off the hook. i don't think you could use that metaphor anymore.
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did your phone ring off the hook? [laughter] ken: vibrated out of your pocket. henry: barack obama said it was stupid you got arrested. yeah. but immediately he was attacked for doing it. so i knew he was going to have to pull back so i didn't know what he was going to do. michael: i got you. henry: so the idea of the -- you know, having a beer came up. and he asked my opinion about that and he talked to the policeman before he talked to me and i said, i think it's a great idea. at that point, all i wanted was for -- here's what happened. we were making "finding your roots," and my girlfriend and i flew out to l.a. on a friday. and we were at this hotel for the weekend. and, you know, people -- we were sitting around the swimming
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pool. it's very traumatic to be arrested. it kind of flipped me out. i was filming eva longoria on sunday at her house. and so i noticed there was a little bit of tension around the swimming pool. just a little bit. the people kind of do a double take. maybe i'm just -- i'm black. i'm paranoid. comes with the -- our d.n.a. so sunday we went up and we filmed eva longoria's fabulous interview and she was very moved. she said, i want to take you to dinner at my restaurant. i said ok. so we went to her restaurant. we had this great meal. and right at the door. i said ok. i am going to quincy jones' house. opened that door, 10,000 photographers. and light bulbs. i had never experienced that before. we had to jump in the car. run away. we had to find escape routes to the hotel and all that.
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that continued until the day after the beer -- all i wanted was for all of that to go away and for my life to be returned. death threats, hate mail. my secretary, she's retired now. she's italian, married to an irish high school sweetheart. i call that a roman catholic interracial marriage. she is like my mother and sister rolled into one. she said she had no idea. even being my secretary -- i chair black studies at harvard. she said, i never knew the depth of anti-black racism in this country because she was taking the phone calls and she was opening the mail. so i was surprised at how organized hate could be.
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because i never experienced it before. you don't just get anonymous letters. these are all cranked out of machines and calling campaigns. i don't know where they move to. i don't know who generates it, but it's a coordinated terrible, terrible, nasty thing. bill clinton called me and as i said, i have a much closer relationship with the clintons than the obamas. he said, why don't you have a beer -- this is funny. why don't you have a beer with the cop? i said, which president? the other president said, i'm going to have a beer with the cop. i was like, didn't you get the message? did you watch cnn? and he said, no, no. not that. he said, call the guy and meet
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in your favorite pub. i thought, wow. we did it we met at the river gods cafe. and what he told me moved me so much. he said, all i want -- he calls me professor. he said, professor, all i wanted was to go home to my wife at the end of the day. and he thought there was another guy, black, upstairs, and we were in the kitchen and that guy was going to come down and blow him away. when he told me that, it brought tears to my eyes because i understand fear. after that we've become really good friends. i see him all the time. [applause] >> thank you, gentlemen. i think this has been the best discussion of race in 54 years since martin luther king held this stage. before michael asked the last question, we'll try to get one more in if we can. i have a few announcements. the national press club is the number one leading organization for journalists and we fight for a free press worldwide.
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more freely access information. as part of the sunshine week, host.ess club will host a sessionl to discuss the presidential election. on march 24, josh kitchen and will be here to remind you about your tax returns. i would like to present our guests with the national press club mugs. [applause] >> thank you. >> are we on the cusp of a new national civic -- civil rights
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movement in this country? >> absolutely. was armed withr the christian faith. was allf believe it right, however, potentially naive as it might need that the president might assume that. the only thing you're going to create the world is to dream it and move into it. is possible for these retrograde tendencies to be quelled. that they are born of fear and anxiety, like someone is eating off your plate. i think if we can turn down the rhetoric and stop gunning the frames, we have the opportunity to move forward and not be what it is now. history makes it always be optimistic. it cannot always be the opposite.
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on the verge are of a major transformation in this country and it will be a movement when what has been historically perceived as race will come to be understood as having been the metaphor for class and economic differences. when that happens, it will be like turning a light switch on be a fundamental transformation in terms of the history of the civil rights protest in the united states of america. [applause] >> thank you gentlemen. we are adjourned. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] [no audio]
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pres. obama: hi, everybody. one of the most consequential responsibilities our constitution grants a president is appointing a supreme court justice. the men and women who sit on the supreme court safeguard our rights. they ensure that ours is a system of laws, not of men. and they're given the essential task of applying the principles written into our founding documents to the most challenging questions of today. so this is a duty i take very seriously. it requires me to set aside short-term politics in order to maintain faith with our founders. and on wednesday, after weeks of consultations with republicans, democrats, and leaders across the country, i selected a nominee whose unmatched experience and integrity have earned him the respect and admiration of both parties, chief judge merrick garland. judge garland grew up in my hometown of chicago, with parents who taught him to work hard and deal fairly. as a young lawyer, he left a lucrative private firm to work for half as much in public
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service. eventually, he oversaw the federal response to the oklahoma city bombing, working side-by-side with first responders, victims, and their families to bring justice for an unspeakable crime. and everywhere he went during that investigation, he carried with him in his briefcase the program from the memorial service with each of the victims' names inside. for the last 19 years, judge garland has served on what's known as "the second highest court in the land," the d.c. circuit court, including the last three years as chief judge. on the bench, he's shown a dedication to protecting our basic rights, a conviction that powerful voices must not be allowed to drown out those of everyday americans, an understanding that justice isn't simply abstract legal theory, it affects people's daily lives, and a spirit of decency, modesty, and even-handedness in his work. judge garland is admired for his courtesy, his devotion to
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family, and his civic-mindedness. for the past 18 years, he's served as a tutor for young students at a local d.c. elementary school. during my time as president, through three separate supreme court appointments, in conversations with republicans and democrats alike, one name came up more than any other, merrick garland. i understand that we're in the middle of an especially noisy and volatile political season, but at a time when our politics are so polarized, when norms and customs of our political rhetoric seem to be corroding, this is precisely the time we should treat the appointment of a supreme court justice with the seriousness it deserves, because our supreme court is supposed to be above politics, not an extension of politics, and it should stay that way. so i ask republicans in the senate to give judge garland the respect he has earned. give him a hearing. give him an up-or-down vote. to deny it would be an
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abdication of the senate's constitutional duty. it would indicate a process for nominating and confirming judges that is beyond repair. it would make it increasingly impossible for any president, republican or democrat, to carry out their constitutional function. to go down that path would jeopardize our system of justice. it would hurt our democracy and betray the vision of our founding. i fulfilled my constitutional duty. now it's time for senators to do theirs. i hope that they take the time to reflect on the importance of this process to our country, i hope that they'll act fairly, and i hope they'll work in a bipartisan fashion to confirm merrick garland to the supreme court. that's how we can uphold our pledge to liberty and justice for all, for our time and for generations to come. thanks, everybody. have a good weekend.
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sen. tillis: hi, i'm thom tillis, senator from the great state of north carolina. i want to speak with you today about the vacancy on the u.s. supreme court. it's a topic that has generated a lot of attention, and frankly, a lot of misinformation, especially since president obama named a nominee earlier this week. there are a couple of things that make this vacancy unique. first, the seat became vacant in the middle of an election year, literally as americans are casting their ballots to help choose the next president of the united states. second, the seat will determine the balance of the court for generations to come, as we're replacing the incomparable antonin scalia. justice scalia was widely admired and respected for defending the original intent of the constitution and its prescribed separation of powers, and he served as a critical check on president obama's executive overreaches. while the constitution allows the president to nominate a supreme court justice, our founding fathers also made sure to give the senate advise and
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consent authority, to help protect the integrity of our system of checks and balances. the senate can confirm a nominee, we can reject a nominee, or we can simply choose to withhold consideration of the nomination altogether so the american people can weigh in on this important decision. this is about principle, not the person the president has nominated, and it's why the majority of the senate has chosen to use this unique situation as an opportunity to let the american people have a voice. the president and democratic leaders aren't exactly thrilled with giving the american people a voice. and contrary to their claims, the senate is doing its job and fulfilling its constitutional obligation by deferring consent in order to let the people's voice be heard. both sides can respectfully agree to disagree, but it's now time to move on to address the many pressing challenges facing our nation.
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we know good things happen when both parties in washington cast aside their areas of disagreement and instead focus on identifying areas of common ground. we saw that last week when the senate passed the comprehensive addiction and recovery act, bipartisan legislation that gives states and local communities vital tools they need to combat the painkiller and heroin epidemic. it's a great accomplishment, but there is still much more work to be done this year. we need to fund our military and make sure our brave men and women have the equipment and training they need to keep themselves and our nation safe. we need to ensure veterans are receiving the best health care possible and more healthcare choices. and we need to hold va bureaucrats accountable. this year, i'll be leading an effort to reform the military's health insurance program, and work to ensure that military families with autistic children have access to the care and the therapy they need. senate republicans already have
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their sleeves rolled up, and we're ready to get this and much more done. the question now is what choice the president and democratic leaders will make. will they join us in doing our jobs on behalf of the american people? or will they instead seek to further divide our nation by turning the supreme court process into a blatantly partisan back-and-forth? are they going to resort to blocking and sabotaging important legislation and good-faith efforts to help the american people, all in the name of seeking to score cheap political points in an election year? senate democrats should remember the message the american people sent, during the 2014 election, which resulted in a new senate republican majority and 12 new republican senators, including myself. american voters made it clear they were sick and tired of the bitter partisanship and inaction of the then-democrat-controlled senate, and they were frustrated with the president's overreliance on executive orders
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to bypass attempts at compromise and cooperation with congress. for the good of the nation, i hope the president and the democratic leadership do not repeat their mistakes of the past. i hope they'll accept, however reluctantly, the fact that the american people will have a voice in this supreme court decision, and start focusing on the issues that concern hard-working americans. i hope the president's final months in office will be spent working with both parties to do great things for our nation. that's what the american people want. that's what the american people deserve. thank you for your time, god bless you, and may god continue to bless the united states of america. >> we will talk more about the supreme court and the nomination of judgment or garland on newsmakers. talk about her
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groups support for judge garland and the ongoing debate in congress. you can watch at 10:00 a.m. on c-span and again at 10:00 -- 6:00 p.m. pending any political coverage. >> the supreme court is vested with an outsized amount of power and that comes with more responsibility. unfettered for 35 years does not pass the smell test when it comes to a better democracy. night, we talkay about changes at the supreme court. including opening up oral argument to cameras and requiring justices to follow the same code of ethics other judges follow. >> this affects all americans. all americans are aware of the third branch of government and
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over the last 10-15 years it has become so powerful. voting, marriage, health care, care,ation, health pregnancy discrimination, women's rights. i could go on in non-. years ago, congress and the executive branch would get together, compromise, put together a bill. that does not happen anymore. asen that the supreme court making these impactful decisions, we as a public the least we can do is task them with transparency and accountability. 8:00ncer: sunday night at eastern on c-span's q and a. >> tonight, donald trump campaigns in arizona. then a look at whether a contested convention as possible when delegates meet. later, a discussion on race in
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america with documentary filmmaker ken burns and harvard professor henry louis gates junior. arizona is a winner take all primary this tuesday for the republican presidential candidates. donald trump in a campaign stop in the state this weekend, holding a rally just outside of phoenix, arizona. he was joined by state treasurer jeff dewitt, former governor jan brewer, and maricopa county sheriff. this is 40 minutes. >> look at this crowd. [applause] >> what a great group of americans that we have today. [applause] jeff dewitt: the establishment
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has called us the silent majority, and they tried to give us their candidates. but, we are not silent anymore, are we? [applause] jeff dewitt: thank god we've been given the gift of one of our brightest minds in our country, a true business success, the man who's going to make america great again. this is the proof of why more people have already voted in this election than all the people in 2008 and 2012. already, with 20 states to go, this and donald trump! [applause] jeff dewitt: we are so lucky to have him. i don't want to waste too much time, but i will introduce somebody else who is going to talk to you today. it is my pleasure to introduce
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to you, the author of "scorpions for breakfast: my fight against special interests, liberal media, and cynical politicos to secure america's border," say hello to governor jan brewer! [applause] [applause] governor brewer: hello, everybody! this is so fabulous. i'm so honored to be here today with you in support of the next president of the united states, donald trump. i've known donald for a long time. he's a man that i know has so much integrity, a thoughtful, kind person.
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i will tell you, when you sit down with donald and you talk to him, he listens. he has listened to all of you. [applause] governor brewer: we have a president who has failed the american people. booing] jan brewer: it is time for a change. we here in arizona are going to propel donald trump to that seat. you know donald has a terrific agenda. he has great initiatives for bringing our economy back, he will grow jobs and look out for small business, he will restructure the tax structure and not only that, he is going to build a fence. [applause]
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[crowd chanting "build a wall"] say wall.l, say wall, chanting] governor brewer: we are the people. our votes count. donald trump has over 2 million more votes than any of the other candidates going into the primary. we will have a big victory on tuesday. and president trump will be back to visit us and we will be happy and we will be protected. so, thank you all very, very much for all your support. --, i tell you, being here
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is this not dropdead gorgeous? it's beautiful. today, we have with us, the toughest sheriff in america. [crowd chanting] governor brewer: sheriff joe will come up here and talk to you in his hometown. please welcome, sheriff joe arpaio! [applause] sheriff arpaio: all right, thank you. america is now going to realize where fountain hills, arizona is. and, uh, isn't it great that our next president picked this great town?
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actually, don't tell anybody, for security reasons, but you can see my house from here. so you know how close i am. my wife can see me on the porch. so thank you, thank you for coming. we had a little problem with demonstrators trying to disrupt -- [crowd boos] sheriff arpaio: because of them, you had to get a little more sunshine, but we made it. and -- and -- three of them are in jail. [applause] sheriff arpaio: if they think they are going to intimidate you and the next president of the united states, it's not going to happen. not in this town. i will tell you right now. -- you know, let me just -- i
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want to do this quick because our next president is waiting. to come here. but, i want to say a couple of things about donald trump. i've been involved in a lot of presidential campaigns. you know that. but i met donald when he was here the first time in july. thousands of people came out to see him. thousands. and that is when i first introduced him. and something gave me -- my gut feeling told me he is different. he's going to do things differently. , i'm ao i am, you know senior citizen, not a psychiatrist or anything, but i do have a gut feeling. and from day one, i knew this was the guy. this was the guy. [applause]
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sheriff joe arpaio: and i have done some introductions of him across the country and i am so proud of him. because at least we've got somebody who is not afraid to speak out. or is politically correct. or doesn't have great issues like illegal immigration. and he says he is going to build a wall, yeah, it is going to be built, and i'll tell you what, if they don't pay for that wall, then we should take away their foreign aid in mexico. then they will pay. applause] sheriff joe arpaio: and another thing, since i lived in mexico as a diplomatic attache and i was overseas for many years, it guess who is the most import person next to the president to deal with international affairs? that is the secretary of state. so where was hillary?
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how many times has she gone to mexico? [crowd jeering] arpaio: and the president who stopped the drug traffic and the illegal immigration problem? and why would a former president, vicente fox, make vicious, vicious, it's about somebody who is running for president, and that person would happen to be mr. trump? i don't see anybody get excited about that. but we made a couple of comments at a rally and they make it a big issue. but anyway, i've got enough to say right now, but i want to introduce donald trump, our next president of the united states. thank you. [cheers and applause] ♪
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y'all ready for this? ♪ mr. trump: whoa! whoa! man! oh, thank you, folks. thank you you very much, folks. oh, what a crowd this is! thank you all, very much. what a great honor. sheriff joe, i want to thank you. you have some sheriff. there are no games with this sheriff, that's for sure. and jan, thank you so much, and jeff, boy oh boy, we have so much support, and on tuesday, it is so important.
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we have a movement going on, folks. we've got to make that movement go forward. the establishment, they don't know what they're doing. they have no clue. they don't how to win. they have not won in a long time. they pick the people that absolutely will never win with the people they talk about. go out on tuesday and vote, i will never let you down. remember. [applause] crowd: trump! trump! trump! [crowd chanting] mr. trump: and i want to tell you, you know, so much about illegal immigration and so much has been mentioned about it and talked about it and these politicians are all talk, no action, they are never going to do anything, and they are only going to pick this up because when i went and i announced that i was running for president, i said, you know, this country has a big, big problem with illegal
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immigration, and all of a sudden, we started talking about it, and then we had bad things happening, and there was crime all over the place and for the first time, people saw what was going on. you had so many killings, so much crime. drugs pouring through the border. people are now saying it, and you know what? wall anding to build a we are going to stop it. it is going to end. [crowd chanting] mr. trump: i only wish these cameras -- because there is nothing as dishonest as the media, that i can tell you. i only wish these cameramen would spin around and show the
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kind of people that we have. the numbers of people that we have here. i just wish that for once, they would do it, because you know what? we have a silent majority that is no longer so silent. it is now the loud, noisy majority, and we are going to be heard. we are going to be heard. so today on drudge, one of the very big stories was about the border agents, they say they support trump, that trump is the only one running that has their backs, ok? and they can do the job, but they don't get support from the politicians. now why? i am still funding my campaign, i am putting up my own money, and these guys, i look at them all up and down, we started with 17 and now we are down to three. don't we love that? don't we love it? don't we love that? we lost the future of the republican party last tuesday in florida, you know, he was the
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future, he was the future of the republican party, except i won florida in a landslide because people are tired of what politicians are doing to the country, remember that. they are tired of it. they are sick and tired of it. so we are going to make change, but it is not going to be obama change. remember obama? change! this is going to be real change and we are going to have a border and unless you have a border, you don't have a country, folks, you don't have a country. remember that. now, in addition, and we will go through a list of things very quickly, because frankly, it doesn't take a long time, we are we are going to end, and core. we going to bring education. education will be local. everybody wants it. we don't want our children educated by bureaucrats from


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